Billie Eilish makes the cover of the Autumn 2021 issue of i-D (Picture: Glen Luchford/i-D)
The pair, who first met in February 2020 at the Brit Awards when the British rapper crashed a red carpet interview of Billie’s, sat down – albeit in different rooms across the world from each other – for a chat with i-D magazine.
Asked by grime star Stormzy, 28, what her definition of failure is, Billie, 19, admitted: ‘I’ve felt like a failure a lot in my life.
‘And it’s really easy to feel like a failure when so many people are looking at you and telling you you are one. It can be hard not to believe them.
‘I grew up with the internet. I use social media for the same reasons everyone else does, and you come across these videos saying you’re ugly and you suck and you’re terrible and that makes me feel like a failure,’ she continued.
‘There are other things too, more concrete things, like when I disappoint myself, when I don’t feel how I said I was going to feel, or do the things I said to myself I was going to do… but failure is an interesting thing because, like success, it’s really only in your head.
‘You can literally physically fail at something but it can still be a success, and vice versa. Success and failure are all only about your perspective.’
The modern music stars sat down for a chat (Picture: i-D)
Billie spoke candidly with Stormzy about their lives (Picture: Glen Luchford/i-D)
The music stars, known for hits Bad Guy (Billie) and Vossi Bop (Stormzy), also got real about success.
‘How I define success has changed,’ Stormzy started, adding: ‘When you’re younger it’s easier. It’s cars, money. Now it’s so different.
‘My idea of success is having time. Do you know what I mean? Having time to make music. Having time to spend with my family, to chill with my bredren. Time to go on holiday, see new places.
‘A lot of people think success is something you have to sacrifice time for, that success is being busy and having no time to see anyone or do anything, but I want to spend time with my nephews, with my mum. I want to have a week to relax,’ he added.
Billie opened up about how joy is her indicator of success (Picture: Glen Luchford/i-D)
Billie also convened that ‘time is priceless’ as it is ‘underrated and under-appreciated, but added that her idea of success is ‘joy’.
‘I’ve learned recently that if you do these things because they’re a cool idea, they pay a lot of money, or they’re gonna get you this big campaign, but they make you miserable? That’s not success.
Billie also spoke about what makes her feel like a failure (Picture: Glen Luchford/i-D)
‘It’s different if you really care about something and the process is miserable but it makes you happy after the fact. Then that’s valid, and worth it. But why make yourself miserable?
‘Success is internal. It has nothing to do with anyone but yourself. Joy and love for yourself,’ concluded the pop star.
Billie’s latest album, which was released at the end of July, quickly climbed the charts and was crowned number one within its first week.
Billie told the Official Charts Company: ‘Thank you so, so much to my fans in the UK. It means so much to me that you guys love this album like I do. I miss you guys so much and can’t wait to come back to the UK soon!’